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0000140HTML & PERLFeature Request - Databasepublic2016-09-03 12:14
ReporterDerIdiot Assigned To 
PrioritynormalSeverityfeatureReproducibilityN/A
Status newResolutionopen 
Summary0000140: multiple ep orders for animes
Descriptionatm there is a gigantic mess with different episode orders mixed all together and not even we mods have a standard besides the "how it was supposed to be", which is very unpractical. just look at http://www.anidb.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3351 which shows the current chaos.

so what to do?! how about assinging not 1 number to an episode, but 2 or 3 for and based upon the selection in the profil the eps will be displayed in either choice:
1 = jap TV
2 = R2 DVD (jap)
3 = R1 DVD
it's kinda like what we have for ep titles atm.

now if we add some things suggested here:
http://www.anidb.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3388
we could even get rid of doubleentries for various animes.
how do i mean that?! well atm we have the following at animepages:

E# (normal episodes)
-----------------
#S (all kind of specials)

if we add now:
"A# (Alternate):
For unneeded alternative versions like extremely censored episodes (ex. Gantz S1, first few USA Dragon Ball Z episodes, etc), i.e. merged episodes because of censorship."

we could in combination with the "multiple ep orders" get both versions under 1 entry and an option to hide the "A#" entries would get rid of doublelistings if wished.


furthermore
adding "B#"
"B# (Bonus):
For bonus content like openings, endings, previews, making ofs, etc."
would also help to make the animeentries cleaner.

"E# (Extras):
For supporting files like SRT subtitles, etc."
isn't neccessary as we already started to move subtitles to the regular eps. the only ones remaining are packed subtitles with subtitles for multiple episodes, which can stay under "S#"

"S#" would now only cover files with multiple episodes and real specials

thats basically how the new "add episode" screen would look like. might help to understand what i mean ;)
http://xs22.xs.to/pics/05136/eporder.jpg

i dunno how realistic this all is, but this would kill multiple problems and would seriously improve anidb ^^

...please don't kill me ^^;;;;
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related to 0000465 resolvedDerIdiot No. of episodes xx + yyextra + possible general notify (wolf's rain) 

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exp

2005-04-02 21:59

administrator   ~0000380

I don't see how being able to specify multiple epnumbers for one ep does actually help in any case except maybe those where one release started with ep 0 and another one with ep 1.
bc as soon as a release skips one ep you can no longer use those multiple ep numbers.

DerIdiot

2005-04-02 22:31

administrator   ~0000381

Last edited: 2005-04-02 23:05

basically you have 3 different cases:
- animes with additional eps released on dvd only
- animes with censored eps on tv for which the # of eps differs
- animes with recaps moved to special eps

Legend:
0 = "container" with EID which has all files
1 = TV Episodeorder
2 = R2-DVD Episodeorder
3 = R1-DVD Episodeorder (unknown, but most likely)
S = Special
E = Episode
A = Alternative
 2 sets:
 AA = normal set
 AB = alternative set
basically if it's set to TV order AA and AB switch positions


example 1:
Dears: (Wolfs rain, Love Hina, and various other new anime which have the 13th ep on dvd only)
 
   0 1 2 3
Episode 01 [E1] [E1] [E1]
Episode 02 [E2] [E2] [E2]
Episode 03 [E3] [E3] [E3]
Episode 04 [E4] [E4] [E4]
Episode 05 [E5] [E5] [E5]
Episode 06 [E6] [E6] [E6]
Episode 07 [E7] [E7] [E7]
Episode 08 [E8] [E8] [E8]
Episode 09 [E9] [E9] [E9]
Episode 10 [S1] [E10] [E10]
Episode 11 [E10] [E11] [E11]
Episode 12 [E11] [E12] [E12]
Episode 13 [E12] [E13] [E13]


example 2:
Gantz: (dbz, ...)
   0 1 2 3
Episode 01 [AA1] [E1] [E1]
Episode 02 [AA2] [E2] [E2]
Episode 03 [AA3] [E3] [E3]
Episode 04 [AA4] [E4] [E4]
Episode 05 [AA5] [E5] [E5]
Episode 06 [AA6] [E6] [E6]
Episode 07 [AA7] [E7] [E7]
Episode 08 [AA8] [E8] [E8]
Episode 09 [AA9] [E9] [E9]
Episode 10 [AA10] [E10] [E10]
Episode 11 [AA11] [E11] [E11]
Episode 12 [AA12] [E12] [E12]
Episode 13 [AA13] [E13] [E13]
Episode 14 [E12] [E14] [E14]
Episode 15 [E13] [E15] [E15]
Episode 16 [E14] [E16] [E16]
Episode 17 [E15] [E17] [E17]
Episode 18 [E16] [E18] [E18]
Episode 19 [E17] [E19] [E19]
Episode 20 [E18] [E20] [E20]
Episode 21 [E11] [E21] [E21]
Episode 22 [E20] [E22] [E22]
Episode 23 [E21] [E23] [E23]
Episode 24 [E22] [E24] [E24]
Episode 25 [E23] [E25] [E25]
Episode 26 [E24] [E26] [E26]
-----------------------------
A-Episode 01 [AB1]
A-Episode 02 [AB2]
A-Episode 03 [AB3]
A-Episode 04 [AB4]
A-Episode 05 [AB5]
A-Episode 06 [AB6]
A-Episode 07 [AB7]
A-Episode 08 [AB8]
A-Episode 09 [AB9]
A-Episode 10 [AB10]
A-Episode 11 [AB11]

example 3:
Chobits: (hack sign, ...)
   0 1 2 3
Episode 01 [E1] [E1] [E1]
Episode 02 [E2] [E2] [E2]
Episode 03 [E3] [E3] [E3]
Episode 04 [E4] [E4] [E4]
Episode 05 [E5] [E5] [E5]
Episode 06 [E6] [E6] [E6]
Episode 07 [E7] [E7] [E7]
Episode 08 [E8] [E8] [E8]
Episode 09 [E9] [E9] [S1]
Episode 10 [E10] [E10] [E9]
Episode 11 [E11] [E11] [E10]
Episode 12 [E12] [E12] [E11]
Episode 13 [E13] [E13] [E12]
Episode 14 [E14] [E14] [E13]
Episode 15 [E15] [E15] [E14]
Episode 16 [E16] [E16] [E15]
Episode 17 [E17] [E17] [E16]
Episode 18 [E18] [E18] [S2]
Episode 19 [E19] [E19] [E17]
Episode 20 [E20] [E20] [E18]
Episode 21 [E21] [E21] [E19]
Episode 22 [E22] [E22] [E20]
Episode 23 [E23] [E23] [E21]
Episode 24 [E24] [E24] [E22]
Episode 25 [E25] [E25] [E23]
Episode 26 [E26] [E26] [E24]
Episode 27 [S1] [E27] [S3]

DonGato

2005-04-05 15:11

reporter   ~0000384

I think it's a good proposition for a definitive solution to the problem, but the thing is I don't follow only one anime numbering style so the profile option is a no go IMO. Better have a line/dropbox with the different distributions for that anime in the anime page so we can select the one we want to show. Of course the default should be TV. :)

Ultima

2005-06-07 20:20

reporter   ~0000507

Hm, I like the solution Deridiot :thumbup: It's a matter of whether exp will have time to implement it :)

petriw

2005-08-13 19:38

administrator   ~0000646

I really like this suggestion.

Musaran

2006-09-21 11:32

reporter   ~0001046

This suggestion seems to adress the problem nicely.
A few comments:

"A# (Alternate): For unneeded alternative versions..."
This "A" could stand for "Altered" too, and be like a flag for presence of censorship/cuts/etc... but then some episodes would only exist in "A" versions.

" "S#" would now only cover files with multiple episodes and real specials"
I feel multi-episode files are not specials, and should be sorted normally with episodes, wich means support for entering and sorting multi-numbers... ok, let's keep them specials until shadow files are there.

Also, if interface will allow sorting of episodes according to different orders, then maybe add a story timeline order (when episodes released after belong before in story).
But in most cases this would get away from "how it was supposed to be".

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2005-04-02 21:48 DerIdiot New Issue
2005-04-02 21:59 exp Note Added: 0000380
2005-04-02 22:31 DerIdiot Note Added: 0000381
2005-04-02 22:35 DerIdiot Note Edited: 0000381
2005-04-02 22:37 DerIdiot Note Edited: 0000381
2005-04-02 23:02 DerIdiot Note Edited: 0000381
2005-04-02 23:04 DerIdiot Note Edited: 0000381
2005-04-02 23:05 DerIdiot Note Edited: 0000381
2005-04-05 15:11 DonGato Note Added: 0000384
2005-06-07 20:20 Ultima Note Added: 0000507
2005-08-13 19:38 petriw Note Added: 0000646
2006-07-22 11:41 fahrenheit Relationship added related to 0000465
2006-09-21 11:32 Musaran Note Added: 0001046
2007-12-06 12:01 epoximator Category Feature Request - Interface => Feature Request - Database
2008-08-20 22:27 fahrenheit Relationship added related to 0001247
2009-08-30 23:12 DerIdiot Status new => acknowledged
2009-09-14 00:45 ninjamask Relationship added related to 0000893
2010-08-26 12:06 DerIdiot Relationship deleted related to 0001247
2010-08-26 12:06 DerIdiot Relationship deleted related to 0000893
2016-09-03 12:14 DerIdiot Status acknowledged => new